Thousand Trails New Program

Thousand Trails New Program

I sort of like the look of the new Thousand Trails Zone Program. . .$499 annual fee. . .you can use all the parks within that zone. We are thinking we will do the East Coast next summer, and there seem to be a good assortment of parks in that zone.

I would love some feedback from someone who knows or has experience with this program. I know there are time restrictions for each park, but beyond that. . .positives, negatives?


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Deon Anter on January 22, 2013 at 10:11 pm.

It is pretty new so I haven’t heard from anyone who has tried it.

I’d want to know if it would it really save money. The nightly costs are very low once you have joined, but you also have to figure in the annual fee. Would you use it enough so that when you amortize the cost of the annual fee over the number of stays plus your nightly fees, would come out with a lower cost than if you stayed in regular campgrounds?

Also, can you just pay the annual fee for one year or are you stuck for future years too?

For some people a TT membership is a great deal. If you don’t use it enough, your costs per night go up.

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Arnold on January 23, 2013 at 1:45 pm.

Thanks Shea, those are a few of the questions I have been researching.

If I am spending $600 per month for an RV Space, and I can purchase one zone for $499. . .I would only need one month’s worth of use to offset the initial cost. . .since we plan to explore the entire Eastern Seaboard next summer, and since it is my understand that nightly rates in that area of the country are pricey. . .I was thinking this might be a solution to lowering costs.

The way I have read it. . .if I purchase all four zones for $2000. . .then my annual fee for all four zones is still only $499.

It sounds really great, but you know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true. . .

There are no parks in the mid western portion of the state, so for folks in those areas, I do not think it would work.

Also, Encore Resorts (I believe) is now the parent company of TT. . .it is my understanding that their resorts will now be available to TT members for the same nightly fee. . .and that the TT resorts may be available to the public. . .this is the part of the program I have heard a lot of squawking about. TT members who purchased their memberships before the new program began are saying, why do they want to continue to pay membership fees, if their resorts are going to be open to the public?

Still lots to research!

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Lyman on January 23, 2013 at 6:19 pm.

go here

Read fine print, if Resident of SD no sales

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Robyn on January 24, 2013 at 6:39 am.

I have read the fine print several times. . .I’ve even read all the FAQ’s. . .and I am not a resident of any of the states listed as being unavailable.

The basics of my understanding are, if you choose one zone, 30 days are included in your annual fee . . .so no payment at all for the first 30 days. . .after that $3 per night for a standard space. . .there may be an upcharge for 50 amp.

If you stay four nights or less, you can move on to the next resort. . .if you stay longer than four nights, you must take a seven day break before you can move to the next resort.

I would really like to hear from someone who has actually USED the program to say if they like it or not, if they think it is a good deal or not.

I read an article from one guy who is upset that the TT Resorts are now being open to the public, and he wonders why he should keep paying his annual dues. I can understand his concerns, since he is used to a private facility, however, we have never stayed in private facilities, we have always shared space with the public, so that is not a concern for me.

Any real life experiences with Thousand Trails? That is the question!

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Fiona Gushue on January 25, 2013 at 12:25 am.

Janice, we are not members of TT but have a standing offer of a membership with them FREE from my wife's cousin and his wife. They are now in their 80's and have tried for about six or so years to give us their TT membership for FREE. They have had it for sale at a greatly reduced rate for the same period of time with no takers.

They can no longer travel or RV and have not been able to for several years, but are still being badgered to keep their membership monthly fees paid up, with scathing letters if they are even a few days late with a payment.

We did check it out as on the surface it looked like a fairly good deal AT FIRST. After much research we found there are really no that many parks that we could or would use in their system. With the addition of newer parks as said here might make it somewhat better but we think the headaches are enough to make it a bad deal for us.

We looked at the long term repercussions of accepting the free membership from her cousin and saw ourselves possibly in the same state of affairs in the not to distant future as we are not getting any younger either.

We also found that many of their participating parks are out in the boonies and not convenient for overnight stops, maybe that also has changed by now. We also do not want to be limited in our choices of where to stop in any area and TT limits where you can stay to use their services. I know PA also limits where we can stay, but if we choose not to stay in the PA park that is available we do not have any fees to pay as a result.

Personally we think PassPort America is so much better of a deal and no monthly maintenance fees to pay and only the once a year forty or so dollars to keep it active. Although some of the PA parks are on the older side and in need of some upgrading, overnight stops don't require as much niceties as do long stays, and good water, sewer and electric hookups have always been offered by all PA parks we have stayed in.

Actually I liken the TT system to time share condos, as long as you don't mind paying continuous monthly fees for only using their services a time or two a year, they are fine. I would never tell anyone NOT TO buy into something, it was not right for us, and after checking out their new deal it still is not for us, but may be a GOD send for you. Best of luck in whatever you decide to do.

Happy RVing.

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Porfirio Leamy on January 25, 2013 at 3:15 pm.

We have been TT members for about 25 years. TT/NACO was a much simpler world back then but there are sooooo many different types of membership nowadays that nobody could ever begin to understand all of them. All I know is that we pay $260 per year and get free 2-week stays at all of the original NACO and TT preserves across the country.

Our contract does not call for 14 days in and 7 days out – so we can go from one preserve to the next without a time-out period. We also get 30 days free stay at our “home” preserve 4 times every year. When we were full-timers we used the “home” 30 days every spring and every fall to visit family and friends. We have enjoyed our TT membership over the years and it has been a great purchase so far.

Now that we’re not full timing any more we may think about giving our membership away in the future.

This new “zone” thing is new to me.

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Gertrudis on January 26, 2013 at 6:29 am.

Actually I liken the TT system to time share condos,

Thanks Dan. . .this is exactly how we have always felt, and never even considered TT, because it just didn’t seem worth it. . .but now with all the extra parks that are added, I don’t know. . .it seems like it would be worth risking $499 (less than we have budgeted for one months stay at an RV park) to try it out for a year. You are not required to renew, if you are not satisfied, at least that’s the way I read it.

The reason I started looking in to it, is that supposedly, daily rates for campgrounds on the East Coast are really high, and TT seems to have a lot of campgrounds available in that zone (NorthEast). . .even Lake George Escape is on their list. Still looking at details, and asking questions.

A guy from Canada, who has supposedly used their program for quite some time, is supposed to be answering a lot of questions for me. I’m interested to see what he has to say.

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janean on January 26, 2013 at 5:27 pm.

We have been TT members for about 25 years. TT/NACO was a much simpler world back then but there are sooooo many different types of membership nowadays that nobody could ever begin to understand all of them. All I know is that we pay $260 per year and get free 2-week stays at all of the original NACO and TT preserves across the country.

Our contract does not call for 14 days in and 7 days out – so we can go from one preserve to the next without a time-out period. We also get 30 days free stay at our “home” preserve 4 times every year. When we were full-timers we used the “home” 30 days every spring and every fall to visit family and friends. We have enjoyed our TT membership over the years and it has been a great purchase so far.

Now that we’re not full timing any more we may think about giving our membership away in the future.

This new “zone” thing is new to me.

Thanks Antone. . .see, this is what I am thinking. . .you are paying $260 per year to use their services. . .I know there was a larger fee upfront when you bought your package. (We will spend $260 for two weeks in Houston.)

We are traveling full time, with no home base, so it just seems like the $499 renewal fee to have 30 nights included would be worth it, and then to be able to use the parks when they are convenient, and stay elsewhere when they are not.

I love studying the details, but I’m seriously, seriously considering the zone program!

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Mikaela on January 27, 2013 at 11:27 am.

I have been looking at it also. If you combine it with Passport America it seems like you could really cut down on your camping costs. I am not sure how they are incorporating the Equity Properties in it. If those are included then it is definitely a no-brainer if you are going to be on the road for more than a year. I think it is even if you only do it for a year.

They contacted us to sell the memberships but it was in New York and my wife did not really want to go up there but it seems like it is going to be an ongoing program. Not a lot of commission in it so they should be able to hold their prices. Having been in the RV business since 1975 I was a little leery of Thousand Trails but this does seem like a good deal.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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mattie on January 28, 2013 at 6:21 am.

you are all studying and reading the plans and trying to figure out if it’s cost effective to join. I’m reading other blogs and the one post I remember reading in the last few days…either on here, SKP’s or gave a heads up that the company that bought TT is selling off some of the campgrounds.

The poster was lamenting that the TT cg that they frequented in the northern part of Washington state was now a KOA and thus out of the TT system.

A few others replied to that OP and said that they were hearing more TT campgrounds were being sold off by the company that bought TT.

I’ve never been interested enough in any CG memberships to study their offerings. Just giving you a heads up that doing some reading on the other blogs might give you cause to pause.

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Renata Mossor on January 28, 2013 at 9:46 am.

Shasta,

I have been looking at it also. If you combine it with Passport America it seems like you could really cut down on your camping costs. I am not sure how they are incorporating the Equity Properties in it.

If those are included then it is definitely a no-brainer if you are going to be on the road for more than a year. I think it is even if you only do it for a year. They contacted us to sell the memberships but it was in New York and my wife did not really want to go up there but it seems like it is going to be an ongoing program. Not a lot of commission in it so they should be able to hold their prices.

Having been in the RV business since 1975 I was a little leery of Thousand Trails but this does seem like a good deal.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Thanks Larry, I think I’ve settled most of the questions I have had. ..with the exception of the Equity Lifestyles campgrounds being included.

I will be calling the main number to try and find out the answer to that question. . .but would also need to see it in writing somewhere in the contract.

If the rest of their resorts are included in the package, then I believe we will try it. If the program works as they say it does, then the worst thing that would happen is. . .we would get the value of what we paid back, and if we did not like it, we would not renew the following year.

Still checking though. . .I always have analysis paralysis. . .so will continue to analyze it to death for the next month or so, at which time I will make a decision.

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Sherman Aumick on January 28, 2013 at 9:47 pm.

you are all studying and reading the plans and trying to figure out if it’s cost effective to join. I’m reading other blogs and the one post I remember reading in the last few days…either on here, SKP’s or gave a heads up that the company that bought TT is selling off some of the campgrounds.

The poster was lamenting that the TT cg that they frequented in the northern part of Washington state was now a KOA and thus out of the TT system.

A few others replied to that OP and said that they were hearing more TT campgrounds were being sold off by the company that bought TT.

I’ve never been interested enough in any CG memberships to study their offerings. Just giving you a heads up that doing some reading on the other blogs might give you cause to pause.

Thanks for your response. . .I believe I have determined that the program, as I understand it, is cost effective for us.

Yes, I have been reading the comments about TT campgrounds being sold. . .and others being opened to the public. As I stated earlier, we have never stayed in a membership only campground, so not really concerned as to whether the TT campgrounds are private or public.

My main concern is. . .if I pay $499 for one zone. . .will I receive $499 worth of value in a years time? I believe I might. . .but will continue to analyze. . .since that is my favorite thing to do. If I receive my $499 worth of value. . .and still decide that I don’t like it. . .I am not required to renew the contract for the following year. . .as I understand it!

Thanks again,

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Phil Tessmer on January 29, 2013 at 9:28 pm.

I think I’ve settled most of the questions I have had. ..with the exception of the Equity Lifestyles campgrounds being included.

I will be calling the main number to try and find out the answer to that question.

When you make that call, determine how far in advance you will be allowed to make reservations. Some of the many TT memberships allow reservations 150 days in advance; some allow reservations 120 days in advance; some allow reservations 90 days in advance. If this Zone membership allows reservations only 60 days in advance, there may be slim pickings left for you at popular parks by the time everyone else has had the opportunity to reserve ahead of you.

I do not see anywhere on the website that addresses the reservation window, so I suspect it is a short window or they would publish it.

Best of luck to you in getting all the facts in advance to help you make a good decision.

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Sarah on January 30, 2013 at 7:02 am.

I read something about the TT members having the exact same set of guidelines as everyone else, (whatever those may be), so that is a very good point, and one that I will attempt to verify.

The poster was lamenting that the TT cg that they frequented in the northern part of Washington state was now a KOA and thus out of the TT system

If you are referring to Concrete KOA they are combined with TT and have sites designated to TT members on property. It’s a partnership property.

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Ja on January 30, 2013 at 8:41 pm.

I have managed to ferret out several of the answers I have been looking for.

The zone program only applies to what TT calls their reserves. . .so the Equity Lifestyles Parks are NOT part of that package.

You are allowed to make reservations 60 days in advance, and you can cancel the membership at any time, with a 30 day notice.

Still researching,

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santo on January 31, 2013 at 1:36 pm.

One thing about reservations is that most of the members have 90, 120 and 150 days advance reservations. It is very hard ro get reservtions in the more popular resorts with only 90 days let alone with 60 days.

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silas on February 1, 2013 at 3:18 am.

Hi Janice,

I also have looked at the zone program and thought the One Zone / $499 price to be very tempting. However, while at “The Rally” in Louisville this summer we talked to one of the TT representatives. She was very eager to sell us a membership and was willing to discount the price….after just a few minutes, we had her down to $299.

Point is, you might want consider attending a rally or trade show before purchasing. The price may be negotiable.

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Dalton Ottey on February 1, 2013 at 1:27 pm.

Hi Janice,

I also have looked at the zone program and thought the One Zone / $499 price to be very tempting. However, while at “The Rally” in Louisville this summer we talked to one of the TT representatives. She was very eager to sell us a membership and was willing to discount the price….after just a few minutes, we had her down to $299. Point is, you might want consider attending a rally or trade show before purchasing.

The price may be negotiable.

Cindy, I LOVE that idea. . .thx for sharing. . .I will be looking for a rally!

We have pretty much decided to give it a try. . .so finding a bargain is right up my alley!

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Jerrica on February 1, 2013 at 4:54 pm.

Well, we bit the bullet, and and purchased the Southeast Zone. All the states we wanted to cover in our summer trip are included, all the way up to Virginia. . .so, I will keep you posted as to whether we made a good decision or not.

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Chris Vittorini on February 2, 2013 at 6:30 am.

I appreciate you being the Blog “guinea pig” for this TT adventure. I would be most interested in your experiences and views as you travel and take advantage of this new membership.

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Wallace on February 2, 2013 at 5:53 pm.

Sure hope it works out well for you. We purchased Coast to Coast and ROD about five years ago with the same thought process you used. We figured we would save a ton over the long haul and make the initial purchase price worth it. Unfortunately what we found was that a large percentage of the parks in the C2C system were run down and not even worth a one night stay. There were a few that were great, but only just a few.

We make a habit of looking at a well known RV park review website before making any reservations. We kind of throw out the high and low review and average the rest to try to get a good picture. I have to say that 80% of the “resorts” where we were traveling from California to Illinois were just not campgrounds we would have even considered going to.

We only went full time at the beginning of 2010, and we actually cancelled our membership halfway through the year! We didn’t even come close to getting our money’s worth. Lesson learned …

Passport America it is!

As I stated at the beginning, I hope you have a much different experience than we did. Perhaps Thousand Trails parks are better as a whole. It will be interesting to hear from you this year.

We will waiting for your thoughts …

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Paul Matrey on February 3, 2013 at 12:27 pm.

Well, we bit the bullet, and and purchased the Southeast Zone. All the states we wanted to cover in our summer trip are included, all the way up to Virginia. . .so, I will keep you posted as to whether we made a good decision or not.

Good luck to you all Janice.

Wife's cousin and his wife are still trying to give their TT membership away and have been for several years. They are well into their 80's now and only travel very occasionally, but somehow they can not cancel their membership and are now being sued because they

elected to quit paying the monthly bills they are sent from TT.

Hope your outcome is much different and you get what you want with

Happy RVing.

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Delisa on February 4, 2013 at 1:56 am.

Good luck to you all Janice.

Wife's cousin and his wife are still trying to give their TT membership away and have been for several years. They are well into their 80's now and only travel very occasionally, but somehow they can not cancel their membership and are now being sued because they

elected to quit paying the monthly bills they are sent from TT.

Hope your outcome is much different and you get what you want with

Happy RVing.

We are not familiar with TT. Passport America has worked well for us.

Janice, we have a question. Can you cancel / not renew if it doesn’t work out for you?

With Dan’s response, that would be a bit scary to somehow be stuck and not able to cancel.

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Loraine on February 4, 2013 at 5:08 pm.

We are not familiar with TT. Passport America has worked well for us.

Janice, we have a question. Can you cancel / not renew if it doesn’t work out for you?

With Dan’s response, that would be a bit scary to somehow be stuck and not able to cancel.

Just an addendum to the above, her cousin and wife have been members of TT probably since it's inception, many years ago and I think the contracts were not able to be canceled then, that is why they are having trouble with it. Under the newer laws and regulations I am pretty sure there will be some sort of cancellation clause in the contracts now.

I feel really sorry for them, but at the same time I can understand them not wanting to continue to pay monthly bills on something they will never use again. That may be the reason they can not give the membership to anyone, no one wants locked into that type of contract.

When they first offered the membership to us just for the transfer fee, we did check out quite a few of their membership parks as we traveled, and like Cheyenne we found an overwhelming majority of them to be old, and run down parks so it did not seem like a good deal to us. Maybe with the new infusion of parks into the system in recent years they have much better facilities, and possibly some are in more centralized areas instead of out in the boonies so far.

Happy RVing.

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Manuel Washam on February 5, 2013 at 3:49 am.

From the Frequently Asked Questions page of the Thousand Trails Website:

Q: How long is the term of the Zone Camping Pass?

A: All Zone Camping Passes have an initial term of one (1) year, with the exception of the 4-zone pass, which has an initial term of two (2) years.

At the end of the initial term, your Pass will automatically renew for additional one-year periods. You may cancel your membership by notifying us at least 30 days prior to expiration.

We have been making financial decisions for a lot of years now. . .some good, some not so good. After thoroughly researching, we feel comfortable with this decision. . .if that changes, I will have no qualms about letting you guys know.

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Boyd on February 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm.

Thousand Trails Preserve – Lake Conroe – Willis TX. . .$3 per night for a 50 amp pull through space. . .loving it. The RV sites are not right on the water, but the boat dock and lake are very close. . .boat rentals available. . .looking good so far!

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Erwin on February 5, 2013 at 10:07 pm.

I was working for a California TT preserve in 2003 when ELS (Equity Lifestyles) bought TT out. ELS owns all the properties and leased back operations to the “new” TT with new management. ELS owns all Encore parks and is buying up many others and adding them to the Encore brand.

Don’t be surprised at any changes you see.

I have also worked for a campground that was a membership park and later bought out by ELS and is now an Encore park. We were instructed to tell original home park members that sites were not available (when they were) during busy times. So, also, don’t be surprised that a space is not available in your former home park.

Bottom line, if you aren’t under contract for more than a year, you aren’t risking much. If you ARE on any kind of contract, watch out. If it quacks like a duck …

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Leonel Niederer on February 6, 2013 at 4:33 pm.

I was working for a California TT preserve in 2003 when ELS (Equity Lifestyles) bought TT out. ELS owns all the properties and leased back operations to the “new” TT with new management. ELS owns all Encore parks and is buying up many others and adding them to the Encore brand.

Don’t be surprised at any changes you see.

I have also worked for a campground that was a membership park and later bought out by ELS and is now an Encore park. We were instructed to tell original home park members that sites were not available (when they were) during busy times. So, also, don’t be surprised that a space is not available in your former home park.

Bottom line, if you aren’t under contract for more than a year, you aren’t risking much. If you ARE on any kind of contract, watch out. If it quacks like a duck …

No “home” park. . .that always seemed too much like a “timeshare.”

So far, absolutely no problems making reservations. . .we’ll see how it goes as the summer camping season kicks in. . .so far, so good!

check out the pics on FaceBook:

Shasta- is this the same program that you signed up for last year, or has it changed? It’s a zone camping program with Thousand Trails.

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Jenette on February 7, 2013 at 11:42 am.

No “home” park. . .that always seemed too much like a “timeshare.”

So far, absolutely no problems making reservations. . .we’ll see how it goes as the summer camping season kicks in. . .so far, so good!

check out the pics on FaceBook:

Okay, it has been nearly 10 months since your last post on your TT membership. How about an update? Good report, bad report, so so report?

Let us know.

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Ashlee on February 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm.

Shasta- is this the same program that you signed up for last year, or has it change? It’s a zone camping program with Thousand Trails.

Thuy. . .yes, this is the program we purchased. . .we only purchased the Southeast Zone, but are so satisfied, that we will either continue to add zones, or will upgrade to a more advanced membership.

We are currently researching the membership that allows you to go from one park to the next for 21 days at a time.

Joe, we have absolutely no problems, zero, making reservations. We did a big summer trip through about twelve states, and stayed in several TT parks, of which, only two had issues. One was just too tight for a big rig. . .very difficult to get in to. . .but once we were FINALLY in the space. . .everything else was fine.

The other one, in my opinion was more of a fish camp. . .we paid for four nights, and only stayed one. . .didn’t even ask for a refund.

The rest were great. . .I will be posting reviews for each park on my website (I am so behind!)

We stay in a TT park for two weeks, fourteen nights $3 per night for 30 amp. . .$6 per night for 50 amp. . . then out for a week before we can go to the next park. . .or stay four nights, then straight to the next park. Sometimes that’s too much moving for us, which is why we are currently researching an upgraded package.

Overall, very pleased. . .will be renewing this next month!

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Booker on February 8, 2013 at 6:12 am.

We stay in a TT park for two weeks, fourteen nights $3 per night for 30 amp. . .$6 per night for 50 amp. . . then out for a week before we can go to the next park. . .or stay four nights, then straight to the next park. Sometimes that’s too much moving for us, which is why we are currently researching an upgraded package.

Overall, very pleased. . .will be renewing this next month!

That is a GREAT review! I’m glad it is working out for you. Please report back when you “upgrade” your membership.

Debbie and I are definitely interested.

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augustine on February 9, 2013 at 5:18 am.

Janice,

That is a GREAT review! I’m glad it is working out for you. Please report back when you “upgrade” your membership.

Debbie and I are definitely interested.

I will keep you posted!

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eda on February 9, 2013 at 12:06 pm.

Yeah, the cost of membership have never worked out to our advantage either. We stay is every kind of place and we are not resort types anyway. We end up only sleeping at the rv park because we are still in the discovery mode hiking off the beaten path.

It is a big wide great world out there and we would feel forced to stay at the park all the time in order to get our monies worth.

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Nella on February 9, 2013 at 11:29 pm.

Yeah, the cost of membership have never worked out to our advantage either. We stay is every kind of place and we are not resort types anyway. We end up only sleeping at the rv park because we are still in the discovery mode hiking off the beaten path.

It is a big wide great world out there and we would feel forced to stay at the park all the time in order to get our monies worth.

That’s great RT. . .but we get our $499 annual fee back in the first thirty FREE days. . .everything else is gravy. . .but we never boon dock. . .maybe we will once we have the motor home and a generator. . .and I wouldn’t exactly call the TT parks we’ve stayed at a resort. . .usually gravel pads and such. . .but that’s just me. They do usually have a pool, spa, and community center. . .

I would say, although this is not actually a TT park, this is pretty much the norm as far as how the TT parks look. . .with the exception of the Encore parks, which are sometimes a little fancier. . .sometimes. . .

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Stanton on February 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm.

We like the picture. Yeah, that looks like the type of country style rv parks we stay at also. The annual rate you mentioned does sound like too much but we guess it is a mandatory membership fee until you sell it to someone else like Dan said. What happens if you decide you no longer want the membership.

Do they turn it over to a collection agency?

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andera on February 10, 2013 at 11:57 pm.

That’s great RT. . .but we get our $499 annual fee back in the first thirty FREE days

How much does it cost to join? We tried Western Horizon. Our annual fee was about $300, cost of stays was $3/night, but the fee to join was something like $5000 for a 5 year membership and a couple thousand more for a life time.

We opted for the 5 year membership with the option to upgrade, but after a couple of years we found that instead of adding parks they were dropping parks and also that the parks were not usually where we planned to be, and since we started Blogs we don’t pay for our sites anyway except when we are enroute from job to job and then used Passport American parks. So we did not renew our membership when it expired. I suppose if we did not workamp all year round we might have used the WHR parks more.

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Lola on February 11, 2013 at 9:27 am.

How much does it cost to join? We tried Western Horizon. Our annual fee was about $300, cost of stays was $3/night, but the fee to join was something like $5000 for a 5 year membership and a couple thousand more for a life time.

We opted for the 5 year membership with the option to upgrade, but after a couple of years we found that instead of adding parks they were dropping parks and also that the parks were not usually where we planned to be, and since we started Blogs we don’t pay for our sites anyway except when we are enroute from job to job and then used Passport American parks. So we did not renew our membership when it expired. I suppose if we did not workamp all year round we might have used the WHR parks more.

Here’s the link that I did all my research on. . we decided it’s a great deal for us. . .only you can decide if it works for you. a one year contract. . .if you choose not to renew. . .you most notify them in writing that you will not be renewing within thirty days of your renewal date.

That is the membership we have. . .there are other programs available that we are currently researching.

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Anette on February 12, 2013 at 3:38 am.

It does sound like a great deal if you pay for sites all the time. Like I said once we started Blogs we found we were paying for sites only in between jobs – which came out to only a week or 2 a year. Obviously it works for a lot of people, otherwise TT would not be able to exist.

Maybe when we stop Blogs we’ll look into it.

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Ressie Meigel on February 12, 2013 at 12:10 pm.

…once we started Blogs we found we were paying for sites only in between jobs – which came out to only a week or 2 a year.

That was our reason too. It didn’t make economic sense. Others have found TT and other programs to be big money savers.

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Elfriede Pleiman on February 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm.

About a year ago TT turned Sharons' cousin's account over to a collection service and they have been badgering them and threatening to take them to court ever since. Their fee is eleven dollars a month, but they don't pay it because they can no longer take advantage of any of the services offered by the TT system. They did talk to a lawyer who advised them to quit paying, but it has not yet stopped the nasty letters and calls from the collection service for TT.

Just an update on what is happening to them, hopefully the new system is set up much better and doesn't expect people to pay for life even after they can no longer use the services. We did check out their new offerings, and they still are not a good fit for us based primarily on where the parks are located, we just don't want to be limited as to where we can travel.

Happy RVing.

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Velvet Banowski on February 13, 2013 at 9:56 am.

Dan, what you mention is a drawback of membership park systems. You have to sell your membership to get rid of the obligation. And often it is difficult, if not impossible, to find a buyer.

Several RV friends have offered to give theirs away just to get out from under the yearly fees.

And, from what Shasta says, that is not true about the new program.

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Lissa on February 13, 2013 at 4:32 pm.

We were discussing the pshycology of fulltimers yesturday morning and we were wondering how many fulltimers became fulltimers because of the freedom to to excape from the restrictions that run rampant within the statdard brick and mortor life type style. Those os us those of us who kind of wing-and-free at heart have inborn issues with life styles that restrict our freedoms and maybe that is our driving force to not join things like TT.

We weere just wondering.

Dan, what you mention is a drawback of membership park systems. You have to sell your membership to get rid of the obligation. And often it is difficult, if not impossible, to find a buyer.

Several RV friends have offered to give theirs away just to get out from under the yearly fees.

And, from what Shasta says, that is not true about the new program.

Thuy I am not saying anyone should not join TT, but I sincerely think everyone should get all the info available, which means info not provided by TT and their sales crew. I hope it works out great for Janice and her hubby, but they have not tried to cancel their membership yet, so who knows. I sincerely hope they have went into a program that does not tie them down for life and wish them the best in whatever they do.

Here are some views anyone considering a TT membership should look at:

Those are just the tip of the iceberg that one can find on line. Of course I am sure there are those who are very happy with the program and I applaud them that it works for them. I just think any major endeavor should be researched both for pros and cons before jumping in.

There are several references in those to the same type of treatment my wife's cousin and his wife were and are being subjected to right now. Just a heads up and info that may help some make a decision.

Happy RVing.

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Seth Piekarski on February 14, 2013 at 7:42 am.

As we’ve stayed in TT parks across the Southeast (that’s the only zone we have right now) from Texas to Virginia and down to Florida, I’ve questioned others about their TT plans, and what their thoughts are. . .explaining that I’ve heard and read horrible negatives. . .

So far, everyone I’ve spoken with has been pleased with the overall plan. . . thus far haven’t met anyone displeased. . .will be at the Lake Conroe park in the next couple of weeks. . .love it there. . .14 days – 50 amp $84. . .as soon as the lake gets some water back in it, I will love it more!

Happy travels everyone,

HERE IS THE DISCLAIMER FOR CANCELING THE ZONE PLAN AS DESCRIBED IN FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:

Q: How long is the term of the Zone Camping Pass?

A: The initial term of a Zone Camping Pass is (a) one (1) year if you purchase one to three zones and you elect to pay the annual fee in full at the time of purchase, (b) two (2) years if you purchase one to three zones and you elect to pay the annual fee in monthly installments, or (c) five (5) years if you purchase a National ZPP (all four zones).

At the end of the initial term, your Pass will automatically renew for additional one-year periods. You may cancel your membership by notifying us at least 30 days prior to expiration.

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